[1214] On Being Asked to Write a Poem Against the War in Vietnam

Title : On Being Asked to Write a Poem Against the War in Vietnam
Poet : Hayden Carruth
Date :  3 Apr 2003
1stLine: Well I have and in fact
Length : 27 Text-only version  
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Guest poem sent in by amulya gopalakrishnan <amulya_g@>

On Being Asked to Write a Poem Against the War in Vietnam
Well I have and in fact
more than one and I'll
tell you this too

I wrote one against
Algeria that nightmare
and another against

Korea and another
against the one
I was in

and I don't remember
how many against
the three

when I was a boy
Abyssinia Spain and
Harlan County

and not one
breath was restored
to one

shattered throat
mans womans or childs
not one not

one
but death went on and on
never looking aside

except now and then
with a furtive half-smile
to make sure I was noticing.

       -- Hayden Carruth


Poems on war sometimes seem so useless and uncalled for, like flinging bits of
confetti at this pitiless juggernaut. This poem sort of captures that, right
from the throwaway tone it begins with to the bland monstrousness of the end.

Amulya

[Martin adds]

This is indeed a brilliant poem, but its very brilliance serves to mask an
underlying fallacy. The purpose of war poetry is not so much to "restore breath
to one shattered throat", but to show people what exactly war is, in a way that
the safely sanitised capsules delivered by newspapers and television cannot or
do not. "The pity of war, the pity war distilled" needs to be adequately
conveyed to the populace-at-large, and I submit that poets, as much as anyone
else, have served to counteract the "dulce et decorum est" blood-and-glory
mindset of an earlier day.

martin

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From: Deepak Srinivasan <dsrinivasan2000@>


I cannot help but think that what this poem does is capture the essence
of the futility of all our railings against our species desire to
decimate one another. We persistently seek out "sanitized" ways of 
"waging a war" and time and time again find that "waging a war" carries 
a terrible price. The last lines 

"except now and then
with a furtive half-smile
to make sure I was noticing."

ensure that we do not look away. I do not know why, but this poem calls to mind

http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/38.html

/Deepak



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From: Deepak Srinivasan <dsrinivasan2000@>


I cannot help but think that what this poem does is capture the essence
of the futility of all our railings against our species desire to
decimate one another. We persistently seek out "sanitized" ways of 
"waging a war" and time and time again find that "waging a war" carries 
a terrible price. The last lines 

"except now and then
with a furtive half-smile
to make sure I was noticing."

ensure that we do not look away. I do not know why, but this poem calls to mind

http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/38.html

/Deepak



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From: SarCanz@

[Martin adds]

This is indeed a brilliant poem, but its very brilliance serves to mask an 
underlying fallacy. The purpose of war poetry is not so much to "restore 
breath to one shattered throat", but to show people what exactly war is, in a 
way that the safely sanitised capsules delivered by newspapers and television 
cannot or do not. "The pity of war, the pity war distilled" needs to be 
adequately conveyed to the populace-at-large, and I submit that poets, as 
much as anyone else, have served to counteract the "dulce et decorum est" 
blood-and-glory mindset of an earlier day.

martin


Martin,

I really agree with you about the role of war poetry.  And I think that the 
current war, shows how important that role is -- and that war poetry can be a 
force for good. 

I wish my government had not started this war, but I think that the way the 
US is conducting the war shows that people have heard the poets and others 
who, for so long, have conveyed "the pity of war" to the populace-at-large.  
Every war is a tragedy but, compared to many wars, this one is turning out to 
be considerably less brutal.  

I think that has a lot to do with the fact that American leaders know that 
their own people understand "exactly what war is" and don't like it.  Poets 
(and artists, writers, film makers, musicians, and actors) keep on reminding 
us of the reality of war, and there is little the government can do to stop 
them.  (Indeed, the Pentagon's decision to "embed" journalists rather than 
keeping them at a distance and trying to make the war look like a video game 
-- as it did in the Gulf War -- reflects the military's acceptance of that.)  

Even the most hawkish American commercial TV has not been able to limit 
itself to "dulce et decorum est" in covering this war, and the coverage in 
American newspapers, magazines, and on American public radio and television 
has not "safely sanitized" the war.  I think that is a tribute to war poets 
and other artists who have continued to distill "the pity of war" even when 
it did seem like they were "flinging bits of confetti at [a] pitiless 
juggernaut."  

It may not be perfect, but it really is some sort of progress.  Wilfred 
Owen's warnings to the next generations have not been wasted.

Sally